Dodge needs to do this

"505Turbeaux" (505turbeaux) 04/08/2015 at 20:43 • Filed to: None

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They need to bring back the Duster name and all of it's trim levels (yes I know Plymouth is dead), like a not porky Challenger. RWD with a turbo or n/a 4 on some light architecture, a retro body and some sweet appearance packages for all. Maybe an option for an SRT6 or 8. WTF are you doing with the Dart anyhow?

I actually like the Dart ok and apologize to those who own them, but Dodge is perfectly positioned to make this work. I know it isnt a 4 door, so maybe keep the dart around for a bit

Mr. Ontop, No Strokes, No Smokes...Goes Fast. > 505Turbeaux 04/08/2015 at 20:47

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No Plymouth, No Duster.

jkm7680 > 505Turbeaux 04/08/2015 at 20:47

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The new Dart isn't a real Dart.

The new Charger isn't a real Charger.

Like, call the Dart something else. It's based off a Fiat for Gods sake.

The Charger has the incorrect number of doors. It's not a real Charger.

TheHondaBro > 505Turbeaux 04/08/2015 at 20:48

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Wrong. Coronet first.

Chuck 2(O=[][]=O)2 > 505Turbeaux 04/08/2015 at 20:48

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2 door coupe to compete with the BRZ. Have the tigershark, and the basic 4 pot, then throw in the 3.6 for those that are power hungry.

505Turbeaux > Mr. Ontop, No Strokes, No Smokes...Goes Fast. 04/08/2015 at 20:48

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yeah, Dodge Demon would work, but I always liked the duster name more

For Sweden > 505Turbeaux 04/08/2015 at 20:49

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Duster Hellcat

Chuck 2(O=[][]=O)2 > TheHondaBro 04/08/2015 at 20:49

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Come on, you know that's the same thing as a Charger.

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > 505Turbeaux 04/08/2015 at 20:50

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I couldn't agree more. The Challenger is great but at 4400 or so pounds it's a pig. Seriously I can't even figure out how a 2 door car can weight that much. Dodge could easily make an frs/brz or genesis competitor / destroyer.

TheHondaBro > 505Turbeaux 04/08/2015 at 20:50

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Dacia Duster?

505Turbeaux > Chuck 2(O=[][]=O)2 04/08/2015 at 20:50

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yep, exactly

4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 > 505Turbeaux 04/08/2015 at 20:51

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What, and let people confuse it with this?

505Turbeaux > TheHondaBro 04/08/2015 at 20:51

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Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

though I do like the name still

Fuck Dacia

4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 > TheHondaBro 04/08/2015 at 20:52

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Goddamnit. You beat me by a minute with the same image.

505Turbeaux > 4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 04/08/2015 at 20:52

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lol noone knows what that is over here

BmanUltima's car still hasn't been fixed yet, he'll get on it tomorrow, honest. > 505Turbeaux 04/08/2015 at 20:55

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I do.

505Turbeaux > BmanUltima's car still hasn't been fixed yet, he'll get on it tomorrow, honest. 04/08/2015 at 20:56

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so do I, but would rather forget it happened

BmanUltima's car still hasn't been fixed yet, he'll get on it tomorrow, honest. > 505Turbeaux 04/08/2015 at 20:59

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I'd rather get the Dacia Duster over here though.

John Norris (AngryDrifter) > jkm7680 04/08/2015 at 21:00

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Well, I'm in for the new dart Hellcat.

BmanUltima's car still hasn't been fixed yet, he'll get on it tomorrow, honest. > 505Turbeaux 04/08/2015 at 21:00

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Just kidding. We can always use more muscle cars.

norskracer98-ExploringTheOutback > 505Turbeaux 04/08/2015 at 21:00

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Meep meep

Sorry I've been watching old Roadrunner commercials. meep meep.

OPPOsaurus WRX > jkm7680 04/08/2015 at 21:02

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yea thats always bothered me about the Charger. Like lets bring back the Omni as a compact pickup or something.

jkm7680 > John Norris (AngryDrifter) 04/08/2015 at 21:05

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If it suddenly turns into a real Dodge Dart.

samssun > 505Turbeaux 04/08/2015 at 22:05

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If you're going to replace the 5.6 (340) and 5.9 (360) with a 4-banger, why call it a Duster? It'll end up as another FWD platform anyway, so just call it the Neon LOL-4.

505Turbeaux > samssun 04/08/2015 at 22:08

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oh I wouldnt be replacing those, just the slant 6, unless of course they want to bring back an inline 6 for the people

Blake Noble > 505Turbeaux 04/08/2015 at 22:45

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I'm thinking this should be a two-door version of the next-gen Dart.

Rumors were going around that the next-gen Dart is supposed to share its platform with the BMW 3er rival from Alfa, which means that it would be rear-drive...

On a related note, I've always fucking loved the matte black roof and hood, and the offset hood graphics on the Duster 340. I'm surprised that FCA hasn't reused that idea on the Challenger.

samssun > 505Turbeaux 04/09/2015 at 00:50

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Dodge needs something fun that isn't gigantic. Problem is, they don't have anything between the wheezy 4-bangers and the V8s...no FI 6s to put in 3100-3300 pound cars. They need a new SRT-6. Preferably AWD + stick.

505Turbeaux > Blake Noble 04/09/2015 at 07:41

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yeah, hopefully they are saving it. It has to have been discussed at some point

BloodlessWeevil > samssun 04/09/2015 at 10:58

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The Chrysler 200 kinda fills that role with the 3.6L V-6 engine. It does not have a manual option though.

My second point: those "wheezy 4-bangers" start in that weight range. I want sports cars that are powerful, light, and cheap as much as anyone. But all those things are mutually exclusive, you cannot have it all, everything is a compromise.

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > 4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 04/09/2015 at 12:03

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Stop ruining everyone's fun with lame ass euro name stealing boring cars!

4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 > MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner 04/09/2015 at 13:55

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Dacia.

Lame.

Choose one!

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > 4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 04/09/2015 at 13:56

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samssun > BloodlessWeevil 04/09/2015 at 19:39

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The 3.6 is a low-revving 275-295hp snoozefest and the 200 is FWD and possibly the most boring car outside of Toyota's lineup. You can put RWD/AWD in a 4/5 door in the 3200-3400 pound range, and there's no reason they should be stuck with 4 cylinders up to the 3800 pound mark.

Chrysler has nothing remotely fun until you get up to the 4000 pound Hemis. A revival of the SRT-6 would slot nicely between the tin cans and land yachts.

BloodlessWeevil > samssun 04/10/2015 at 07:27

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The 200 does have an AWD option with the 3.6L. Second, when did a hair shy of 300 HP become boring. Just twenty years ago that kind of power was hard to get out of anything below a 305.

Yes, powerful and lightweight is possible, but it is also expensive. What you are looking for is something like the Crossfire or Prowler, which both died because no-one wanted that. I think you should pay attention to what Alfa Romeo is planning. That might be more to your liking.

samssun > BloodlessWeevil 04/10/2015 at 07:51

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2xx horsepower became boring somewhere between a decade ago when Subaru gave you 300 from an old turbo 4 (not even direct injected), and the time since when every car put on 300+ pounds and jumped at least a size.

Nissan gave us 300 hp at 3300 pounds in 1990. My NA at 3200ish doesn't feel light, and at ~250 hp doesn't feel fast. If an extra 50 hp costs me several hundred pounds, it's not much of a gain. I start to get interested around the 10 pound per horsepower mark, and just want something not-huge.